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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Bunny With Splay Legs needs help Reply with quote

Hi all...I am new here. In fact it is my first post. I have a problem, my bunny actually...it has splayed legs all 4 but the back legs are managable since i tied it using a gauze. 2 vets i visited dr tan from james tan and dr chan from namly both said there is nothing much i can do. No medicines were prescribed.

The splay on his front legs is rather bad (90 degrees). Does any one here know or have any idea as to how i can treat the condition even if not a 100% cure. Pls help me. It pains me to see him moving with so much difficulty. Especially when he tries to eat or drink it is very hard for him to stand up properly.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you can read through this thread and see if there are any useful tips that you can extract and apply on your bunny.

http://www.hrss.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1716&highlight=splayed+legs

I hope your bunny GETS WELL SOON. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your rabbit's splayed legs genetic or due to accident?

Sadly, splay legs is irreversible. You may use soft band to tie their legs so to make them straighter but may not work for older rabbit. And it can be very uncomfortable for them.

My senior rabbit developed splayed legs (front) 1 over year ago. I suspect it is due to his constant jumping up and down my bed (even though I have place an extra box so that the height is not too great). His hind legs are alright. Now I have to place more rugs on the floor for him so that he has better grip and the 2 front legs won't glide so much to the side.

You could use a bowl instead of water bottle for water. And use a lower litter pan or place a few pieces of rubber mats outside the litter box to aid him getting in and out of the box.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys.


paare : well i am not too sure but a year ago his legs started to go sideways but he seemed to be able to run ard and clean and play and all so i tot it was normal. BTW he is a senior bunny. But suddenly just b4 x-mas he just lost the use of his front 2 legs. That is to say completly no energy to move them and stand up.

So initially i fed him by hand and now after 2 weeks seems to eat on his own with some help. He used to be able to drink off a bottle last time but now uses a small tray...cause i cant seem to find heavy and yet shallow bowls for him...(just realised that most pet shops in Sg are very unfriendly towards disabled rabbits Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad ) Litter box wise i have not been using one but now due to his disability i plan to keep him in a play pen with softer / griper materials so i think i will try to train him to use a shallow litter box. Any idea where to get one that is really shallow?

Yes i realise that rabbit medicine has not progressed to a state where splay legs can be cured so i was even thinking of alternative treatments like accupunture or herbs etc maybe even physio Laughing Any ideas on this?

Thanks all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rabbit got splayed legs when he turned 7. And it happened gradually. Initially he was still able to support his body weight with his 2 slightly spalyed front legs but now when he moves, he is doing a breast stroke swim. I think your bunny has the same problem as mine.

I also think it could be an age-related problem, equvalent of hip dysplasia.

You could source for shallow water bowl or litter box from neighbour store. I don't buy these items from pet shop at all. If your bunny is not able to hop into any litter box at all, then you could also use a 2 ft tray, available from pet shop, those that are used for wire-bottom cage. And line adult diapers/ dog wee-wee pad on it.

You can try acupunture if you want. I was giving mine Reiki for a short period of time. But later becos I have to nurse a badly injured bunny and so I have no time to Reiki the splayed legs bunny. Am going to start again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to ask a question.

With many of us living in homes with tiled floors (marble, terrazzo, ceramics etc), are our bunnies more prone to having splay legs Question I can't help noticing that my bunnies' legs will gradually "slide" wider & wider, before they close their legs back again. This is esp so when they are grooming their backs & bums. Will they develop splayed legs when they age Question

Just concern abt them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paare wrote:
My rabbit got splayed legs when he turned 7. And it happened gradually. Initially he was still able to support his body weight with his 2 slightly spalyed front legs but now when he moves, he is doing a breast stroke swim. I think your bunny has the same problem as mine.

I also think it could be an age-related problem, equvalent of hip dysplasia.

You could source for shallow water bowl or litter box from neighbour store. I don't buy these items from pet shop at all. If your bunny is not able to hop into any litter box at all, then you could also use a 2 ft tray, available from pet shop, those that are used for wire-bottom cage. And line adult diapers/ dog wee-wee pad on it.

You can try acupunture if you want. I was giving mine Reiki for a short period of time. But later becos I have to nurse a badly injured bunny and so I have no time to Reiki the splayed legs bunny. Am going to start again.


Thanks for the advice. BTW wat is Reiki? and also any accupuncture person for rabbits? Dr Oh?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maggielop>> slippery floor may contribute to splay legs problem though not 100%. My other older buns are ok. But Dr Ling did said my floor may be too slippery that's why my senior bun developed splayed legs.

I actually chose the rougher type of ceremic tiles when I renovated my place 4 yrs back. But didn't help. I would think providing some rugs or zig-saw puzzle rubber mats give good grip for bunnies, esp when they are standing up on 4 to eat. As all my bunnies have free roaming 24/7. Lucky them, poor me. Laughing

Darkness>> Reiki is a healing technique using universal energy
http://www.carolanivey.com/reiki/index.html

yeap, Dr Oh is good with pet acupuncture
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paare wrote:
Maggielop>> slippery floor may contribute to splay legs problem though not 100%. My other older buns are ok. But Dr Ling did said my floor may be too slippery that's why my senior bun developed splayed legs.

I actually chose the rougher type of ceremic tiles when I renovated my place 4 yrs back. But didn't help. I would think providing some rugs or zig-saw puzzle rubber mats give good grip for bunnies, esp when they are standing up on 4 to eat. As all my bunnies have free roaming 24/7. Lucky them, poor me. Laughing

Darkness>> Reiki is a healing technique using universal energy
http://www.carolanivey.com/reiki/index.html

yeap, Dr Oh is good with pet acupuncture


So u said u tried Reiki right? So while u were at it was there any significant improvement? So sorry i have so many questions Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NATURAL HEALTH CARE FOR RABBITS
Anna Maria Gardner MA Vet.MB MRCVS


This article is dedicated to Honey and Edelweiss who inspired me to write it

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What is natural health care and what is it used for?

Many rabbit owners and lovers are not aware that natural care and holistic health treatments are available for their pet, and that it can be extremely effective in a variety of conditions. Rabbits have a rapid metabolism and respond well to treatment modalities such as acupuncture, homeopathy and flower remedies. The other benefit of using such therapies is that there are very few, if any side effects, unlike a lot of drugs such as antibiotics, which rabbits tend to be very sensitive to. Of course we can still use those conventional treatments if we need to, but they are often best reserved for serious and life-threatening situations. Even in such cases holistic treatments such as vitamins and homeopathic remedies can be used as a follow up therapy or as an adjunct to the conventional treatments, to speed up healing and help with such problems as shock and trauma. There are a number of homeopathic remedies and flower essences that are useful to keep at home to help in emergencies immediately before visiting the vet, or even to decrease fear and anxiety for regular veterinary visits. These can be used to calm your pet and give symptomatic relief and are invaluable aids to caring for your rabbit. Acupuncture can be used to treat an extensive list of ailments, but is particularly useful in orthopedic conditions. Homepathy also treats a lot of problems from infectious diseases to broken bones - after they are stabilized with either splints or surgery. The main common denominator of holistic care is that it treats the whole animal, it does not just remove symptoms which tend to come back in the same or different form, sometime in the future.


How can I find out about treating my rabbit naturally?

More and more people are turning to so-called alternative health care for themselves, and it can work equally well for their animals of all shapes and sizes and breeds. As such it is best termed complementary veterinary medicine in that it can be used together with or subsequent to conventional Western medicine and is also preventive too in that it keeps the immune system strong. Although a lot of the supplements which are used are readily available in the health food store it is still best to consult a licensed veterinarian about treating your pet, as it is still of paramount importance to have a correct diagnosis, and also have the correct dosage for the individual animal, this applies especially to herbs and certain vitamins. There are a growing number of veterinarians trained and certified in holistic treatments, most commonly acupuncture, homeopathy and chiropractic. If you are interested in keeping your rabbit as healthy as possible and free from disease it is well worth thinking about these different types of care. In addition many people do not realize that complementary medicine can even offer hope when conventional treatment has failed or is unable to offer any chance of a cure. Of course this depends on the individual animal and the disease or condition that is present, but at best a cure may be achieved or if not at least some form of relief or palliation may be available in addition or instead of the conventional drugs or surgery. Some telephone numbers are given at the end of the article to help you locate a holistic veterinarian in your area who you could talk to and see if they can help your rabbits, and some of them also do telephone consultations if there is no-one in your area to consult with directly.

What is homeopathy and how can it help my rabbit?

Homeopathy is a specific system of medicine that was developed in Germany by a certain Dr. Samuel Hahnemann in the late eighteenth century. The word is derived from the Greek words meaning similar suffering. Homeopathy is based on the concept that a substance that causes a symptom in a healthy patient will treat that same symptom in a sick patient. A single homeopathic remedy is usually used which treats the whole animal, including their mental, emotional and physical symptoms. Conventional or allopathic medicine tends to deal more with symptoms which are suppressed or removed by the use of drugs such as antibiotics or steroids. Of course in life threatening situations antibiotics and other specific drugs such as heart medicines are essential,. The difference is that homeopathy actually stimulates the body to heal itself, and strengthens the immune system, and leaves the body in a better state of health than before it was ill. Homeopathy can treat a surprising number of conditions. It is said that there are no incurable diseases, just incurable patients. Rabbits and other animals that are treated regularly with homeopathy are overall in much better health and live longer, because their immune system is continually being strengthened and challenged rather than merely weakened and suppressed.

What is acupuncture and how can it help my rabbit?

Acupuncture is a better known Eastern method of treatment which is becoming increasingly popular. It is based upon the concept that the body has energy lines, known as meridians, running through it. If the body is out of balance the energy lines are blocked or weakened and deficient in some way. Needles are carefully inserted at appropriate acupuncture points in order to rebalance or redirect this energy and thereby balance the body. Acupuncture points have been mapped over thousands of years by the Chinese mainly. Interestingly they have now been identified using modern scientific techniques and proven to exist. The effects of acupuncture include pain relief, an increased feeling of well-being, as well as a decrease in inflammation or an increased in blood flow, depending what the body needs and how the needles are used. Acupuncture treats conditions such as arthritis and nerve damage as well as other more general conditions such as liver or kidney failure. Additional benefits include longevity which refers to an increase in both the quality and quantity of life. Many rabbits treated with acupuncture live longer than average and enjoy increased energy and health. Acupuncture offers a viable alternative to the use of pain killers and steroids, as well as surgery and has few, if any side effects when used appropriately.

What are Flower Essences and how can they help rabbits?

Flower Essences and Remedies are similar to homeopathic remedies in that they are dilute extracts of various flowers. The most well known Flower Essences are the Bach Flower Remedies were developed in England by Dr. Edward Bach who spent his life researching and developing the thirty eight remedies he discovered. Basically these gentle essences work on the emotions of the body and all animals and people respond well to their use. They can be used to treat various emotional problems as well as modifying behavioral problems. Each of the thirty eight remedies has a particular emotional state that it treats. For example an essence called Holly is helpful for treating an aggressive rabbit that tends to fight with other rabbits. There are essences that help overcome fear or anxiety, that help in adjusting to new circumstances such as when a rabbit moves to a new home or there is a new addition to the family. The most well known and useful Essence is Rescue Remedy which is a combination of five of the Bach Flower Remedies and is an essential in a holistic first aid kit, which is discussed below. There are other Flower Essences from California, Australia and other places which are also very useful and are used to heal emotional problems in rabbits, other animals and people.


What natural remedies can I add to my rabbit first aid kit?

There are a couple of things that can be added to the first aid kit that any pet owner would find useful. The first of these is Rescue Remedy. This is invaluable any time there is shock, stress or trauma. It can be safely used before visiting the vet office or after any kind of injury. It will often revive animals that are in shock and help in their journey to the vet and subsequent recovery, though is obviously not a replacement for immediate veterinary care. It has definitely saved many animals and is totally safe. Basically four drops of the stock bottle are added to a one ounce glass dropper bottle of spring water and shaken up. It is best to make this up immediately before use as the mixture will not keep too long. For people alcohol is used as a preservative but I find in small animals like rabbits it is best to use plain spring water. Two or three drops of the mixture can be given into the mouth or onto the gums every five minutes until a response is seen. Rescue Remedy can also be given in the water during any time of stress and in this case it is best to use ten drops every time the water is changed. The other useful remedy is homeopathic and is known as Arnica, the potency can be 30 C or 6 C for first aid use. It is used for bruises and trauma to the body and helps healing after any kind of surgery or accident. It is available in pellets that can be dissolved in water and given by mouth. It works more on the physical body, while Rescue Remedy works more on the emotions. Both of these useful remedies are easily obtained at the health food store and are useful adjuncts to your first aid kit and a great way to discover the wonderful effects of holistic medicine.
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